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Q: Does the new GI Bill cover Doctor of Chiropractic Degree?
As i see it covers graduate and undergraduate degrees, and vocational/technical training, licensing and certification…. would it cover a 4 year Chiro college?

A: Chiropractic falls under graduate degree or “advanced degree.” Therefore, yes it does.

Q: doctor of chiropractic degree?
After obtaining a Bachelor’s degree, about how many years would it take to earn a DC?

A: Well all programs are either 4 or 5 academic years. In terms of hours they are usually a few hours more than MD school. Not all the chiro schools require a bachelor’s degree but all require at least 3 years college to apply. You can take no breaks and finish some chiro programs in 3 years to 3 and1/3 years I believe. Here is an excellent program. This school requires a bachelor’s degree.

http://www.nuhs.edu/show.asp?durki=508

Q: Bachelor of science in biology vs. bachelor of health science?
What is the difference between the two degrees (course wise)?
In university i would like to be able to take social sciences as well as classes in English and Business. Can this be done with both degrees?
After university I intend on going to graduate school and completing a doctor of chiropractic degree.
Please help me

A: I think it is better check it on Internet, especially the university you want to go. The reason is that different colleges have different requirements for the programs. I am sure that you will find more information about Bachelor of science in biology and bachelor of health science there, and then you are able to see the difference.

Hope that help.

Q: Where can I receive a D.C. degree?
I have a B.B.A. and am considering going back to school to become a chiropractor. I currently live in TN and do not wish to go far from here. Resources online a limited and it seems like there are few schools offering Doctor of Chiropractic programs. What and where are some of the best ones? How long do the programs take to complete? About how much do they cost?

Gracias!

A: With a Bachelor’s, you can get into almost any chiropractic school probably with a few extra prerequisite classes.

From Tennessee the closest school is Life University in Atlanta. Don’t go there though. They do not give their students a strong science base and generally produce fanatics that claim to be able to cure diabetes or cance with adjustments. Complete BS.

The better schools would include National (Chicago & St. Petersburg, FL), Northwestern (Minneapolis), NYCC (in Upper New York State), SCUHS (near LA), UConn- Bridgeport and Texas Chiropractic College. Those would be the best. Palmer in Florida is ok but newer. Don’t go to Sherman either. Most of the other ones are acceptable.

The program will take ~3.3 years going straight through or ~5 years taking summers off.

I graduated ~6 years ago with around $100,000 in debt.

Q: chiropractic medicine?
what is the correct term when you get your medical degree in chiropractic medicine. that makes you a doctor of “chiropract________ ?
okay, look at it this way. when someone says what are you a doctor of, you cant say im a doctor of chiropractic.
is it chiropracty? i just need the correct terminology and propper english

A: actually, you can say a doctor of chiropractic.

The correct term would be ‘John Smith DC’

As in John Smith, Doctor of Chiropractic.

That is the correct term.

Q: What’s the best therapy for scoliosis? Does chiropractic helps?
I am 33 years old and my doctor says that my backcbone curves to 30 degrees. I was advised to have an operation to implant some kind of supporter to prevent my backbone curving more or undergo a Documentation Based Care therapy from Finland, but I also heard claims about chiropractic therapy for scoliosis, others say Pilates or Yoga are also good. Please give me some input, my back pain is killing me

A: Operation for scoliosis should be performed only when the health and vital organs are compromise. (heart / lungs) 30 degree of scoliosis is no that high to consider an operation. Chiropractic will help you releasing the pain of the muscle spasm created by the scoliosis. Exercise Yoga, Pilate’s, abdominal exercises will help you with your problem. If I were you I will try any non-operative procedures before a Metal Rod and screws in your spine. After the metal rod is in the doctors can’ t take it out. Good luck to you.

Q: i have a scoliosis?
im 13 years old and i have a double curved scoliosis.
i used my sister’s email to ask here @ yahoo answer
the upper one was 34 degree and the lower 39 degree.
the doctor told me 2 use milwaukee brace, yeah, the one with some kind of steel to keep my head up.
this is bad i dont want 2 wear that 2 school it will look ridiculous.
my doctor will give me a boston brace if i dont want 2 wear that. this one is much better but it will make my body extremely bended to the right, yeah it make me look like an idiot.
I was thinking if I could have the 2 of em. So i wear the boston 2 school and i’ll wear the milwaukee at home.

any help please? im not ready 4 this
oh yeah, and do chiropractic help???

A: I know what you mean. I had an upper curve of around, maybe 45, but don’t remember what the lower curve was. I had to wear a Milwaukee brace for a little over 5 years. It wasn’t the most fun time. I had just moved into a new school and didn’t have any close friends to help me through. If you have good friends, you’ll get through it so much easier than I did.

This is a time for you to be strong, though, and think about *the rest of your life*. If the Boston brace won’t work (and may even cause other problems), don’t do it. Look at it this way. Does it make sense to cause yourself 70 years (you’ll probably live that long) of possible pain and health problems because you didn’t want to look silly for a relatively short while?

You have a good idea about asking the doctor about using two braces, but if the answer isn’t what you want to hear, I suggest you go with the Milwaukee.

Ya know, its silly for a pregnant woman to say she’s ugly because she’s fat. Its not true at all. Its also not true when you say you’ll look like an idiot. What is true is that you will look like you’re wearing a brace. And this means you have an issue and are taking care of it in the best way doctors know how. Most kids and school will accept what you are doing. I can’t remember anyone ever teasing me about it when I was in school.

I don’t know if you’re a female or male, but I do know that there are several MySpace sites for people with scoliosis. There are also other Yahoo groups. These are resources for fashion help. They’re also good for getting to know others and being able to vent when your frustration is too much for you.

Speaking of venting, please make sure you have people around you that you can talk, discuss, and vent. Wen I first got my brace, I could have joined a support group. I never saw any purpose in it and declined. A few years later, after I’d gotten angry with my situation, I wished that I’d joined.

You may want to google

“milwaukee brace” clothes

to get some clothing ideas. I’m sure there are many better google phrases.

A very good book to read is “Scoliosis – Ascending the Curve” by Brooke Lyons and others. It discusses many things about scoliosis, from diagnoses to treatment to pain management to famous people that have it, etc.

Chripractic sessions may make you feel better but won’t do anything to correct your curve. Your back is growing curved. Manipulating your muscles and soft tissues won’t change that. Any correction will soon be lost and you’ll end up no better off than before.

Q: Do You Think I Have A Good Chance of Getting In?
I am currently a clinical psychology grad student. I was trying to get my masters but I don’t want to go that route. Instead, and this might seem strange, I want to go into chiropractics (it isn’t as unrelated as it might seem). Anyway, I am trying to get into a place called National University of Health Sciences. In order to get into their doctor of chiropractic program, you need a bachelor’s degree, which i clearly have, an undergrad of 2.5, i had a 3.5, and two character references, which i had people that i worked at charities with fill out for me.

In addition, people with over an undergrad GPA of 3.25 (remember i have 3.5) get “priority admission” and those with a 3.5 or over, get a rather large scholarship, guaranteed. Normally i wouldn’t sweat it but it is a doctoral program and a lot of people do apply. However, does it sound like i have good odds?

A: You have an awsome chance. LOL, the two specialties are very unrelated. By the way, congratulation on your scholarship.

Q: Can you rank these degrees?
Can you rank these degrees?
In the order of most respected medical fields or most worthy initials to have after your name?

Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine (DO)
Doctor of Chiropractic Medicine (DC)
Doctor of Medicine (MD)
Doctor of Dental Surgery (DDS)
Doctor of Podiatry (PM)
Doctor of Pharmacy (PharmD)
Doctor of Optometry (OD)
Doctor of Philosophy (PhD) in medical/dental field

A: PhD
MD
DDS
PharmD
OD
PM
DO
DC

This is how I feel about them. I’m earning my MD degree right now, I’m a med student. PhD is something I would want to be someday, but there is a lot of work to be able to do that. DDS requires dental school and PharmD a degree in pharmacy, which are also very hard schools. PM and OD, are degrees that we in Europe don’t have. As I can see, there is special schools in US and Canada for this medical fields. So, I wouldn’t compare anything to medical school and I will rank them lower than MD. And about DO and DC. Those aren’t real doctors. And they very often do more damage, so MD’s must fix what they messed up.

Q: How long would it take for a chiropractor to become a medical doctor? Is it any faster?
I am just curious to know if a chiropractor would be able to finish a medical degree faster than a medical student with only a bachelors degree.

Do courses transfer as they do as an undergrad? A chiropractor takes many of the same courses as a medical doctor so it makes sense to me that a d.c would not need to take as many courses.

Then again, I understand that a medical school would want anyone, despite their background, to start from beginning to end. I just thing it would be nice to get the best of both worlds without the years and years of school and without going to osteopath route. I am more interested in the chiropractic approach than the m.d. approach.

Thanks for your information!!
To “the mom”. Thanks for ydour feedback, it is much appreciated. I worked with amazing ER nurses in Iraq and you guys are incredible. As far as the DO route, I still would like to be involved in the chiropractic side of health. I understand DO is somewhat of a happy medium, but I have never seen a DO set up their own clinics and going for that holistic approach. I have seen them at hospitals but they functioned exactly like M.D.’s and I never felt as if I received the “wellness” approach. I am not again md’s at all. I think there should has HAS to be a healthy balance. However, I still like the way chiropractic take the initial approach as long as they are not unwilling to refer to a medical doctors.

I start Chiropractic next month and I am very excited about it and I have much to learn. I asked this question to see how easily to the career paths overlap. I thought maybe there was a chance of doing both sides to the full extent (D.C. and M.D.) without years and years of school haha
Sorry about the spelling errors, I was rushing my typing. I hate looking that sloppy
Weezies Mommy – Thank you very much. I appreciate you taking the time to give me an in depth answer.

I understand the difficulties I will face regarding income and that some chiropractors simply do not make as much money compared to many M.D.’s such as yourself. However, my mom has been managing a chiropractic office for over 10 years now and they are doing very well for themselves. I guess I just have to be optimistic and understand that I may never made the “big bucks”. The D.O. route is very attractive, but I have always dreamed about having my own clinic as a chiropractor since I have looked up to my mother’s bosses’ for so long.I still feel like chiropractic is for me not b/c I feel it is the “superior” field, but because that’s what I have always be interested and it guarantees satisfaction in regards to my career.

Mr. Neutral, I don’t mean to be bias. It just stems from being around it for so long and liking the methods. DO makes sense but being a D.C. is still my #1 choice
Ricky, that is exactly what my approach is going to be. I want to focus on wellness, exercise, nutritional needs, and lifestyle first before anything else. I hope I am able keep this attitude through chiropractic school and I hope that I still feel confident about it once I am finished. I still have to much to learn so admittedly I have all these BIG ideas. However, I am 28 years old and start chiropractic school next month at Northwestern in MN, so I doubt things will change.

A: Hi – I am an MD who teaches alternative and complementary therapies at a big medical school. I don’t know how long chiropractic school takes, but at my med program you are looking at 4 years of med school and 3 years of residency in our Family Practice program. None of your courses from Chiro College are going to transfer. In fact, if you go to a regular med school, then quit and go to another one, the courses don’t transfer. The programs are not the same at all.

Your problem with doing chiropractic training and then MD training is going to be all about your license – I don’t think you can keep both licenses going at the same time. You either have to be a DC or an MD. You can’t be a licensed DC and prescribe medicine. I work with a big group practice that also has DO’s and many of them do a fair amount of manipulation and alternative therapies. The great thing about being a DO or an MD is your ability to prescribe medicines and therapies. I cannot tell you how much that will help your patients – don’t HAVE to prescribe meds, but they sure can help those who need them.

Many patients go to a doctor according to whether or not their insurance will pay. I worked in an clinic with 2 naturopathic doctors, an herbalist, a chiropractor and a holistic dentist, and I saw maybe 60% of the patients because their insurance covered the visit. The naturopaths were awesome, great acupuncturists and homeopaths, but their patients had a hard time coming up with the $100 office visit out of their own pocket. Just a hard fact. And, frankly, your income will be so limited without insurance money coming in. It is SO hard to get all your patients to pay in advance. They just don’t have the money. You will want to treat them for free, and wait for them to pay you, yet the government considers that money you will collect and you will pay income taxes on it. Every year. It is SO stressful.

Good luck on your decision. If I were you – I would go to Osteopathic med school if you are interested in manipulation, or Naturopathic med school if you are interested in herbal medicine and acupuncture. More options.

Q: What type of doctor…?
…should I try to become?

I’m not interested in working in a hospital. I don’t like drugs/medicine. I’m more of a preventive/alternative kind of thinker. I was thinking chiropractic, but I might want something more reputable. I just want to get the word out about other ways besides popping pills for everything and what not. I guess I’m looking for a specific degree for which I should shoot in college.

Thanks ~AD~

A: Chiropractic is a very reputable field. However, most modern chiropractors are very interested in nutrition and recommend non-prescription pills such as vitamin supplements and herbs to their patients. Chiropractors are very interested in preventive medicine, but they also spend a lot of time doing hands on work on their patients’ spines, necks, etc.

You may wish to consider optometry which is more “mainstream” than chiropractic. It involves the use of eye drops.

Chiropractic is studied at colleges of chiropractic which often require less than a bachelors degree for admission. Sometimes three years of college are required.

Optometry Schools at universities require a bachelor’s degree for admission.

Q: Is Osteopathy a bit like Kenesiology, Reflexology and chiropractic?
This question appeared which i was unable to answer under my account so I thought i’d re-post it.
There are a few answers here Dave has made some glaring mistakes in his answer so I thought I’d correct them.

http://nz.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ArekClOtxMMijofVzGJRbXwri3RG;_ylv=3?qid=20100421000929AABU8VP

###Germs are made by your body in an effort to clear up a messy environment. Once this has been achieved they will automatically disappear again.”

http://www.british-institute-of-osteopat…

Well this is not an opinion I share. It seems more in common with some naturopathic thinking. Moving On, until Dave had mentioned it in another question I’d never heard of this institute.
It certainly isn’t a prerequisit to jon it in order to practice and i’d be surprised if 5% of British osteopaths were members. All Osteopaths practicing in Britian register with GOsC (the regulators). most join the BOA although this isn’t a pre-requisite to practice. So thank you for pointing that out Dave but you’ll be pleased to know that this theory is held onto very few if any UK practicing osteopaths.

###I think he mentioned once that if he had any concerns then he refers them to a GP (how he’s qualified to assess this I’ve no idea), so I don’t think he’s as deluded as some on here who think they can treat serious diseases.###
I can do this because I passed clinical exam and showed that i was a safe and competent primary care practitioner which allowed me to register with the General osteopathic Council. This is the regulatory body formed under direction of the government to regulate us under consultation with the government. It acts in the same way as the GMC but regulates Osteopaths not doctors. If there was a failure in the regulatory system or the public is at risk the government is empowered to disolve the council and regulate us.
So any UK registered Osteopath is qualified to assess, test and screen a patient and either diagnose and treat or refer on with some differential diagnosis autonomously.

####There’s only 2 universities in the UK offering a BSc in Osteopathy####

Correct. The other 5 offer BOst or BOst Med which is directly equivalent to (BSc Hons) or MSc in osteopathy. The education standard is going up not down.
The number of institutions offering Osteopathy and number of students graduating as osteopaths has grown steadily since regulation in 1998.

###Wow Lightning, I’m so honoured that you want to be me! Follow in my footsteps and you may learn something yet, Grasshopper.###
No Dave I’ve got a real job. I don’t hide in auniversity pretending to be usefull doing 1 degree after another. I work and pay tax to fund people seriously lacking in social skills who choose that option rather than become unemployed.

###Actually, as accredited places are becoming less,####
Sorry pall the numbers are going up not down.

###there’s all manner of dubious institutions taking it up (as befits its marginal credibility).####
Oxford brookes university and Leeds metropolitan university are dubious institutions?
Brookes is well considered in the world for academia, Leeds is up there in the world for sports research. The other uni’s that offer it aren’t world class but they are good universities.

###Lemme know if you want a “PhD in Osteopathy” from Dave’s 100% Kosher School of Alt Med”, I can cut you a nice deal!###

Does the syllabus cover these subjects?
Anatomy: Osteology & Arthrology ,Cardio-respiratory Physiology, Myology, Neurology
Nutrition & Biochemistry
GI, Renal and Endocrine Physiology
Principles of Osteopathy
Osteopathic Technique
Soft-Tissue Techniques
Clinic Theory & Observation
Diagnosis
Spinal Mechanics
Clinical Nutrition & Dietetics
Physiology
Pathology
Exercise Physiology
Clinical Soft-Tissue Techniques
Differential Diagnosis
X-ray Diagnosis,
Rheumatology & Orthopaedics
Psychology
Paediatrics
Research Methodology
Peripheral Mechanics
Clinical Practice
Clinical medicine
Clinical Obstetrics & Gynaecology
Practice Management, Ethics And Audit
Research project Dissertation
Osteopathic Clinical Practice

Have you also got RQ status from the GOsC with your teaching passed of an acceptable standard?
Hold on I don’t have to do all that again. I covered it in my undergrad degree….
Nah you can stick your PHD mate. My clinical skill is adequate as i have proved to the UK and NZ council.

A: im a massage therapy student and im not going to read all that but i do study a lot of that, anatomy especially.

Q: Have lived in acute pain for 2 decades; doctors, exercising and medications don’t work. What else can I do?
I have seen every specialist in the health care system, tried more kinds of pain medications than I can count. I exercise. Have had xrays, MRI’s, CT Scans, and lab tests done. Have tried Chiropractic care, TENS unit, massage, heat, ice, accupuncture, reflexology, relaxation techniques, vitamins, natural medications sold in health food stores, hypnosis, and prayer. I am only 51 y/o and have no quality of life. This is not where I saw myself being at my age. The dozens of doctors I’ve seen over the years either don’t care enough to get to the root of the problem – or don’t want to take the time necessary to get to the root of the problem because my insurance is an HMO, and we all know they don’t pay the doctors as much as they feel they are worth. At my wit’s end! Is there anyone out there who knows how to get me beyond this degree of pain? There will be no more doctors or tests for me, so I’m reaching out to my fellow human beings. Help me please!

A: have you tried natural pain control methods? In south america they make tea from Coca leaves. My grandfather is peruvian and when he goes back to visit he always has some. Its very therapuetic in its natural state. Also in the caribean and parts of mexico they use MJ leaves and soak them in grain alcohol for a month or 2 at a time and use the resulting liquid as a joint and topical anesthetic.
What about desensitization? If the pain isnt structural (joint, bone, tissue, internal) then apply increasing pressure to the affected area over the course of a week or so. Massage roughly and test the limits of when it actually hurts “too” much. Lower the intensity for a few minutes and keep pushing the envelope. I used to have stress fractures in my right leg and this was how I pushed through that.
You gotta put more info about the actual pain location and type next time.

Q: Treatment for disc problems and reversal of cervical lordosis.?
Since I was a teen (I’m now 27), I’ve had unexplained back and neck pain, headaches, muscle tension, and spasms. About a year and a half ago, the doctors figured it out after an MRI. They said I had varying degrees of damage (none really serious, but all problematic) in four cervical discs with moderate reversal of cervical lordosis.

It seems that the problem is congenital because my mother and both sisters have it to varying degrees. Physical therapy did not help significantly and was way too expensive for me to be able to do it long term.

What are my options for the reversal of lordosis? I know that the discs can improve with physio, postural training, exercise, chiropractic, and other treatments, but I suspect that orthotics or surgery may be the only hope for the curvature problem.

I ask that only medical professionals and those with direct experience with this problem respond.

A: Although curve reversal is associated with acute muscle spasm such as after a car accident, research studies have shown that it has no bearing on chronic neck pain. In otherwords, loss of cervical lordosis occurs just as freqently in the pain free population as it does the painfull population.

Due to the chronic nature of your pain, a home traction unit or a cervical posture pump http://www.barringtonequipment.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=2997&DEPARTMENT_ID=203 (although to be quite honest, I’ve never used on of these with my patients)
might be in order.

Posture remains your number one defense against neck pain. However, pain in general is a multifactoral problem and requires a healthy, well balanced life to help manage.

Q: Questions about Scoliosis?
I’m 15 years old and have been diagnosed with scoliosis about 7 months ago. I don’t have any back pains or any reflex problem. I had X-ray 6 months ago and it shows a curve on the top of my spine but there is no curve on the bottom. But I still do sports and I’m quite active. My doctor says my spine is curve 15 degree. I had another X-ray few days ago and it shows no significant changes. My parent bought me a back support to keep my posture straight. I want to know is there a way to stop it getting worse, how do i get it, what is the cause, and is there any way to make it back to normal and about how many people in the world have this problem too. (one more thing does exercise, Chiropractic help?)

A: Your spine will grow curved if it wants to and there’s nothing that will keep it from doing that. A back brace will help to keep your curve stable but a brace probably won’t permanently make your curve better. Chiropractors and exercises won’t fix the curve either.

The good news is that you have a minor curve. 15 degrees isn’t much at all.

I’ve posted the following a few times for other people with questions. I hope I’ll answer the things that have you concerned.

Scoliosis comes mainly in two flavors – functional (the curve is caused by another issue (uneven leg length for example) and structural. There are two main kinds of structural scoliosis – congenital (present at birth) and idiopathic (unknown cause). It is important for you to know what kind you have.

If you have functional scoliosis, a chiropractor may be able to help. Shoe lifts may help with uneven legs, but there can be many causes of functional scoliosis. I don’t have much experience with functional scoliosis.

If you have structural scoliosis, there’s not a lot you can do. The main treatments depend on how bad the curve is and how much more growth you have to go. Its not possible to predict how much or how fast a curve may increase.

You need to see a scoliosis specialist if you’re not doing that already. A doctor that is not trained as a scoliosis specialist doesn’t have the expertise to treat it.

Any curve under 10 degrees is considered normal and probably isn’t monitored.

Curves from 10-25 degrees are mild but should be monitored, especially if you’re still growing.

Curves from 25-40 degrees are moderate with bracing possible. You will need monitoring, especially if you’re still growing.

Surgery may be recommended if your curve doesn’t respond to bracing. Bracing will do no good if you’re through growing. The purpose of a brace isn’t to make your curve better, but rather to keep the curve from becoming worse.

Curves greater than 45 degrees is major. Surgery may be recommended. This depends on many things, but whether you’re done growing, whether your curve is increasing, whether your heart and lungs are in danger of being squeezed by your curve, whether you’re in pain, quality of life, etc.

If your curve is over 30 degrees, there is a good chance that it will increase even when you’re through growing. (Mine did.)

Unfortunately, nothing can *fix* idiopathic scoliosis. Surgery can keep the curve from getting worse, and in most cases, will reduce the curve but most likely your spine won’t be straight (unless you are very flexible in the area to be fused, then you might be lucky).

Chiropractors, message therapists, acupuncturists, etc., can’t fix idiopathic scoliosis. These people adjust the soft, connective tissues and that may (or may not, you can’t tell ahead of time) make you feel better, but remember, idiopathic scoliosis is not a connective tissue disease. Your spine is growing curved.

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